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Verbannon



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 11, 2017 9:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh wait, ask. Maybe thats the key word in your statement. Okay just in case. Please and thank you.
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 12, 2017 2:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Verbannon wrote:
...feel free to fill in any holes I left that need filling in as you feel fit.


Rest assured, I most certainly will Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 20, 2017 2:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't even will myself to continue now. I've been working up to building my own army of wondrous figurines for so long. It was going to be my living quarters, then below that where my research on developing wondrous figurines is ongoing, then below that was going to be a purely visual level with portals leading to all 19 of the inner planes, with the planes being held back only by powerful Abjuration. Then Below that was going to be where Verbannon kept his personal army of Tempusian spies. And below that was going to be an isolated part of te underdark with one of those archways, but have it lead to the Kinarro underdark.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 21, 2017 10:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Honestly Verb the best I could suggest for you would be to actually work in consultation with someone rather than going in guns-blazing and being disappointed when it's overkill. Some of what you want to implement could be done if it was kept within reasonable limits; eg/ I really don't think keeping a personal spy army in the basement is gonna happen.

Also the consultation would help avert a few flaws in your knowledge of the setting - eg/ we don't have 19 inner planes (refer to cosmology on the website for the basics, or ask in-game if you need more detail your character may know); we lean on the "great wheel" design but with our own modifications, much like most of Shadowgate's lore & setting. The underdark archways have a very definitive role/history that isn't available for being placed on player request - you could look into alternative transport options if it was something of interest to you!
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Verbannon



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had this mentioned in my PC notes for a while. Maybe not in this final form but like here is a note from my pc notes.

13 : Verbannon, Sun Jul 5 19:56:20 2015 - Balur has made for me many full
sized monster figurines I am storing int he uncoded dungeon levels of my
lab.

And there are multiple other references to my desire to build my influence in the Tempusian Intelligence community in my pcnotes. And well there were pc notes before the server transfer that described my desire to connect my bunker to Kinarro through its arch. And when you made my current bunker I did tell you I eventually wanted to build lower levels where I could store some personal forces.

How is that all not consulting? Why am I making PCnotes if it doesn't count. I thought the Avatars periodically reviewed the PCnotes to stay abreast on the characters. Eliminating the need to actually avatarmail as llong as its in my pcnotes.
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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 10:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Avatars do review PCnotes. However avatars are not responsible for approving or creating player housing. We are also extremely low (ie. almost non-existent) right now on avatars, as I'm sure you're very aware, so saying "it's in my notes" doesn't really hold a lot of weight, as I'm sure you would understand. It doesn't mean it was approved by anyone unless you have spoken to someone: it means that you want to do it, and/or your character is trying to do it; not that you have yet succeeded. Consultation means talking to someone. Have a conversation and get things cleared; players are not GMs so they don't get to approve minion armies. Same as tabletop would work.

You are still a PC and there are still limitations to what we allow, to keep things fair across the board to everyone (if you can have it, why can't everyone else?). I can say right now that we are not going to put an army of spies in a basement for anyone, so it's not personal - that's just not part of our housing template. We have an existing framework on what we permit for housing, and all coders are expected to work within it.

Figurines could be worked with, within reason, but would take more coding than a standard house, so you would need to be patient until someone has the motivation and time to do so, and understand if it is not the epic collection of boss-doom-beasties you feel you deserve to have. Please expect that any requests that exceed the normal scope of housing rooms and functions, may be delayed or declined on those grounds.

We are a volunteer staff first and foremost. Please ensure you are making reasonable & respectful requests of those that are putting hours of work into something that is purely for your benefit. "Free time" in the modern age is a highly valuable commodity (or at least so I have learned Razz), so I get a little upset when players voice demands to our avatars & coders who are giving up said free time for someone else's enjoyment, rather than asking.

By all means, make requests, and if the answer is no, or a modification of your expectations/timeframe, accept that for what it is. We will try to give a fair response/reason if possible - whether that be scope limitations, setting conflicts, or simply a lack of coder time or motivation. Honestly Verb, the ongoing contentious nature of your posts is a demotivation in itself - I know it's your nature, but that doesn't change the fact that most people don't react well to it. If you want these things to happen, work with people and accept the game's limitations. The game is a co-operative effort and we all put in as we enjoy it. Keep it enjoyable Smile
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Verbannon



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PostPosted: Tue Jun 27, 2017 11:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do I have to do to actually increase my character to top level wizard.

Try to understand, I'm not upset about being denied what I requested. I expected denial thats why I was submitting it one part at a time.

I'm upset at being told I could do it, if I paid an NPC wizard to do it. My character is as high level as they come and has been around for a while and everything I wanted to do has supporting RP behind it.

Thats my entire problem, being told I can't have my character do it himself. But I have to hire an NPC wizard to do it instead. This bunker, and each level is supposed to be effectively my character's trophy rooms. Each level representing the effects o things my character has accomplished throughout his career.

And it only works as a trophy room if I build it all myself, hiring out only where it makes sense.

And I'm not even expecting a gold discount for doing it myself.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 1:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Verbannon wrote:
I'm upset at being told I could do it, if I paid an NPC wizard to do it. My character is as high level as they come and has been around for a while and everything I wanted to do has supporting RP behind it.


This was at my suggestion given your character has utterly focussed on abjuration, and I would've expected an enchantment specialist would undertake such items, given the power you seemed to want to put behind some of them. You're already "top level wizard" but that doesn't mean you're a master of every aspect of magic, nor will you ever be. People don't become master heart surgeons and then do brain ops because they're "top level surgeons", if that makes sense.

If there's evolving RP or greater back-story than I'm aware of (not just "writing it on your character sheet as assumed") please discuss with whoever opts in to code your extensions; as I mentioned, we require more than just saying you're going to do it and then you've done it. Thus my suggestion for talking through it with someone, instead of airing frustrations all over the forum. Not sure it really helps Smile
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Verbannon



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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The figurines are supposed to represenent a culminatiin of RP both with Balur and Trillet. My character is ostensibly focused on Abjuration. But actual events throughout myRP have, at least I think, openned up opportunities. Like that powder of life my character invented. Its not abjuration, but as he as alchemist as a secondary specialty and his abjuration tends to use alchemy a lot to enhance it. It made sense that his dealings with the feywild would give him alternative areas.of research.

Same thing here, plus the figurines arent meant to be complete yet. Just under research. I think I noted that in the room descriptions. Verbannon figured out how to transfer consciences or at least partiaoly as part of his dealinfs with the possession plagued Trillet. Culminating in the extraction of Echo. And Balur helped him create monsterous figurines. And the extracted echo was transferred into one of them.

The chamber with the unfinished figurines, the extraction chamber floating above ect. Is supposed to represent Verbannons ongoing research into expanding upon these previous efforts. Because even wizards who specialize dont just abandon lines of potentially useful opportunity research even if not in the preferred field of study.

Mow if I need to, I have some followercmages, I could say they are enchanters and acting as assietants here in this research and fill in the lack of specialization.

But at the end of the day, it needs to be something Verbannon can claim ae his accompllishment. Not the accomplishment of someone he hired.

Maybe I overeacted a tiny bit. If so Im sorry. But it is so frustrating and despair causing to be told that I can pay someone else to do something for me. Like Im some kind of munchkin that just wants the best stuff. And I dont care at all about the RP.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

And sending the first parts of my expansion was me starting a discussion. Its not my fault no one wanted to discuss it.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be a better idea to approach the 'discussion' a little differently then... sending in completed files and directions, while diligent, kinda sends the message of "here it is, now install it" Smile

I'll leave the rest between you & A, this kinda discussion wears me thin Sad
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:38 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wish you would stop trying to make me feel like a bad person just for talking. Also I didn't have anything to discuss, until I finished that first part. Because it was in making that first part that my plan solidified from the vague

"Okay I want my small personal army of possible still under researched sentient statue things made by on the first level then eh something on a lower level relating to my spy network, like guild base or something and uh I want a connection to kinarro under there. Oh and I would like some dungeon elements and a small reward somewhere as a way of rewarding anyone who finds and explores my base"

to something worth discussing.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay Aurglorosa, you've been reading this. Time for your input please.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Please discuss directly with A - there's no need for this to be an ongoing forum thread when it only needs to involve two people Smile The idea of the forum is for a group discussion, personal items can be taken up directly with the imm/s in question.
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2017 11:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well I was the last one to send a message in the discussion (When I sent the room i fo)between A and me. So I guess Ill just wait for a response since its still A's turn to respond.
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