Shadowgate

Tels · Joined: 24 Nov 2017 Posts: 23

rolling with your first and second points there, that is the ultimate reason to pk another person, to basically get them out of the way of whatever you do.

But really only the victim and the ones that killed them should forget about each other for a few days, like pk flag timer, and be like oh I remember that jerk now. would be easier to implement that way perhaps. Adding in accomplices present and witness may be harder, perhaps if you see it happen the code can recognize it.

xnithi · Joined: 25 Oct 2017 Posts: 57 Location: Texas, y'all

My point was that it wasn't their deity doing it, but a different deity with different values beyond theirs. Shouldn't a cleric of Oghma hold his deity's values against death Himself? Non-cleric followers would want to appease Kelemvor, but A cleric?

But, that all said, I don't doubt that Oghma mught have an official unofficial exception when it comes to other God, or at least Kelemvor, if aimply not to start afight. Even if we didn't do it that way, the greater good if the MUD comes before any RP kustifications I might want. I tend to get really hooked on details and nitpick, so I try to be aware that I'm doing it and, if possible, stop. That's somethibg that flows into my characters, too... Got Sadhara in trouble the other day. So, sorry.

I do want to ask, can extreme maiming still happen with mutual consent? I can play without being able to do ine major thing, so don't mind. But regardless if whether or not mutual consent is an exception, the standard rule being no extreme maiming seems very good, and Kassius' suggestions are all good rules to dollow.
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xnithi · Joined: 25 Oct 2017 Posts: 57 Location: Texas, y'all

Seeing N's post, permadeath with an experience rollover would not be too bad. On the other hand, I hear people talking about how characters used to not get past lvl 15 due to constant pk. I think people being in your level range would have to be brought back. There also might be an issue with "Oh, I'm not Daryll, who just died, I'm Deryl, the strikingly similar character. ISo, trading problems for problems. However, naybe it would be less problems that way? Especially if you have rules that allow getting to max level being a real possibility, and prevent copy characters. I get fond of my characters, so permadeath would be sad, but not enough to drive me away.
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Gia · Joined: 03 Feb 2017 Posts: 58

I don't like the idea of permadeath, but i do think there should be a tangible consequence to being killed by a player. I've tried to avoid killing in the past to keep rp flowing, and the times i did type hit, it was usually with the intent to end a certain PvP plot-line or for pure self-preservation. Likewise, if i considered maiming, it has usually been to stop the intended victim from doing evil deeds for a while as it has often been more efficient than killing them.

I usually let my characters stay dead for a while after a PK and I appreciate it when others do the same. A few weeks, a few months, sometimes longer, depending on how and why they were killed. I know that would suck for some, but it would suck less than permadeath and it lets everyone move on from the situation in a much more natural manner. And it solves most of the "unnatural rp" issues that has been discussed.

So that's my humble suggestion; stay dead for a fourthnight or so. Avoid the hassle.
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Nienne · Posted: Wed Dec 13, 2017 10:16 pm Post subject:

I'm much more inclined to extended absence/alternative play options than permadeath. The kind of game we have and the tools we make available lend towards extremely in-depth and detailed characters, people literally spend hours upon hours just thinking them through and setting them up. To have that knocked out by one player in a matter of minutes, who may not even be inclined to RP through it (not compulsory these days), and have all of that completely wiped, seems truly unfair. We're looking at other options around this but I won't really be able to look at what we want to act on til I get thru to holidays Smile

pangretor · Joined: 16 Jan 2014 Posts: 20 Location: Atlanta, GA

All RP is, is mini storylines. If you die, You are not part of that story anymore, only remembrance of your death. Those still in that story can act on revenge but should not include those that died whilst carrying it out. Like VR said, if you are RPing with the PKee, don't talk about what is going on in that OTHER line of RP, in which they died, with them as they are dead and do not need to know/cannot do anything about it. If the PKee walked into a room where others were still RPing that storyline, they should be ignored and should not try to interact with "the living", because they are dead. Frankly for the '48' hours after a PK, you shouldn't interact with anyone involved, unless it was just a maiming and not a death. If you see your killer, or the person you killed in a room (within the 48 hours), do not go in that room if they are RPing with others. This forces an uncomfortable situation on the player(s) which is just in bad taste if it is done.

I am not for Permadeath, as I would likely stop playing lol.

As for the consent of PK topic.. once that flag is down, that is all the consent there is, and anything and everything after that point is on the menu in my opinion. If you are thinking of "extreme maiming" someone, just kill them, because if not then you're just being a dick. If you don't wanna run the risk of PK, keep the flag up as Kassius eluded to. You can't have your cake and eat it too.

I can only speak of my PK altercations over the years and if you have a question on how things should be handled, mail those involved and see what they are ok with, not ok with, how to act, etc. I know I have.
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